This is a funny article. The writer is not a historian or anthropologist. Just somebody who hates Christianity using a Christian name. I advise him to write a similar article on Lord Rama and will see the results.
Is there any definitive evidence that Jesus Christ lived? Many people doubt if Christ was a person. But we traditionally belive and worship Jesus.
There is no definite knowledge about St Thomas coming to Kerala. Just a tradition only. If he came or not, will not affect our beliefs too.
If the early church leaders wanted to create a myth, why Thomas? Why not some other Apostle, more well known like St Peter or St John?
The claim of st Thomas converting some Brahmins is an anti-Christain idea. How can the disciple of Christ, who accepted all the lowly people like prostitutes and lepers, convert only upper caste? This point of the write is very very true. Some one created this myth.
For other things, he uses the writings of anti-Christian RSS supporters like Koenrad elst. I think he says that Taj mahal was tejo Mahalaya and built by some Hindu kings. What authenticity is for such Christian-haters?
Patannamakkal also says the myth of the killing of St Thomas was created for conversion.,  no sir. there was no need of it during British days. Till 1980s, the upper castes considered many lower castes as outcasts and not part of Hinduism. The upper acstes were not concerned about the conversion too. Now they know, numbers are good and accept the lower caste as Hindu.

ഹലോ സത്യാന്വേഷി, സത്യം അറിഞ്ഞിട്ട് വല്ലതും എഴുതൂ. തന്നത്താൻ ഉണ്ടാക്കിയ പേരിനോടെങ്കിലും നീതി പുലർത്തൂ. പീറ്ററിനും ജോണിനും പകരം ജൂദാസും ആകാമല്ലോ. ബനഡിക്റ്റ് മാർപ്പാപ്പയും തമിഴ്നാട്ടിലെ ബിഷപ്പുമാരും ആർ.എസ് .എസ് പ്രവർത്തകരോ? താങ്കൾ ഏതു സഭയിലെ അച്ഛനാണ്? സത്യം ചിലർക്ക് ചില കാലങ്ങളിൽ ചൊടിക്കും. അതാണ്‌ ഇവിടെ സത്യാന്വേഷിക്ക് സംഭവിച്ചതും.

Dear thekkan, nobody says st Thomas came to Kerala or was martyred as definite truth. It is a tradition.
What is the big deal about it? We know the exact spot where Lord Rama was born thousands of years before St Thomas. 

ജോസഫു പടന്നമാക്കലിന്റെ വിഷയവും എഴുത്തും ശൈലിയും വായനക്കാരിൽ പ്രതികരണം ഉളവാക്കാൻ കഴിവുള്ളതാണ്. ഭയം ഇല്ലാതെ താൻ തിരെഞ്ഞെടുക്കുന്ന വിഷയത്തോട് നീതി പുലർത്തുന്നു. അത് കൊള്ളണ്ടടത്തു കൊള്ളുന്നു എന്നതിന്റെ തെളിവാണ് ഇതിനു മുൻപ് എഴുതിയ ലേഖനങ്ങളുടെ ഇ-മലയാളിയിലെ അൽപ്പായിസു തെളിയിക്കുന്നത്. പ്രതിഫലേചഛ കൂടാതെ ഭയരഹിതരായി എഴുതുന്ന എഴുത്തുകാരുടെ കൂട്ടത്തിൽ ഞാൻ അദ്ദേഹത്തെ കാണുന്നു. തോമസ്‌ അപ്പോസ്തലനെ സ്വീകരിക്കാൻ വന്നവരുടെ കൂട്ടത്തിൽ ഔര് യഹൂദ സ്ത്രീ ഉണ്ടായിരുന്നു എന്ന് തരൂര് കണ്ടു പിടിച്ചെങ്കിൽ അതിൽ അത്ഭുതപ്പെടാനില്ല. കാരണം മൂന്ന് വിവാഹം കഴിച്ച തരൂരിന് സ്ത്രീകൾ ജീവിതത്തിന്റെ ഒരു അഭിവാജ്യ ഘടകമാണ്. ആദ്ധ്യാത്മിക ജീവിതത്തിനു ഇറങ്ങി തിരിക്കുന്നവർ വിവാഹം കഴിക്കുന്നതിൽ കുഴപ്പം ഇല്ല എന്ന അഭിപ്രായമാണ് എനിക്കുള്ളത്. ഭക്ത ജനങ്ങൾക്ക്‌ ഒന്നുമല്ലെങ്കിൽ അവരുടെ ആണ് കുട്ടികളെയും പെണ്‍കുട്ടികളെയും വിശ്വസിച്ചു അമ്പലത്തിലോ പള്ളിയിലോ പരഞ്ഞയക്കാമല്ലൊ? അവരുടെമേൽ ഈ അട്ടിന്തോൾ അണിഞ്ഞ ചെന്നായിക്ക്ൾ ചാടി വീഴില്ലെല്ലോ? യേശുവിനു മഗ്നലക്കാരി മരിയുമായി ചില ഇടപാടുകൾ ഉണ്ടായിരുന്നു എന്നും ചിലർ വാറ്റു ചാരായം അടിച്ചിട്ട് (ജോണി വാക്കർ അന്നില്ലായിരുന്നു) എഴുതി വിടുന്നുണ്ട് (ഇതിന്റെ സത്യാവസ്ഥ അറിഞ്ഞിരുന്നെങ്കിൽ ജയൻ കെ സി പൊളിമോര്ഫിസം എന്ന കവിത രചിക്കുകയില്ലായിരുന്നു). പിന്നെ എന്തുകൊണ്ടാണ് ഇവർ സ്ത്രീകളെ വിവാഹം കഴിക്കാത്തത് എന്ന് ചോതിച്ചാൽ "കെട്ടും ഭുജാലാതാതികൾ കൊണ്ടവൾ അങ്ങോരിക്കൽ, കൂട്ടും കടാക്ഷ വടികൊണ്ട് മാറ്റൊരിക്കൽ," കൂടാതെ കൊല്ലം തെൽമ പറയുന്നതുപോലെ മുടിഞ്ഞ 'അസൂയ' എന്ന രോഗവും കാരണമാണ്. പിന്നെ ഇതിന്റെ സത്യാവസ്തയിലല്ലോ ഇന്ന് ഒരു മതവും നിലകൊള്ളുന്നത്‌. എത്രമാത്രം കെട്ടുകഥകൾ ഉണ്ടാക്കി സാധാരണ ജനത്തെ ഇരുട്ടിലാക്കൊമോ അത്രയും നാൾ മത നേതാക്കൾക്ക് ഞങ്ങൾ ഇപ്പോൾ നിങ്ങൾക്ക് വെളിച്ചം കാണിച്ചു തരാം എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞു കറക്കാമല്ലോ. വയലാർ പരഞ്ഞുതുപോലെ സത്യത്തെ സ്വർണ്ണ പത്രംകൊണ്ട് മൂടിയിരിക്കുകയാണ്. നല്ല ലേഖനത്തിനു നന്ദി.

Religion began after myth, the same way myth is the dream of a race. Religion helps my vision, my deeds, my words, my society.

'Varthamanapusthakam' is the first travelogue in Indian language. That is a original testimony of nazrani history and struggle. At least read that book before spewing these kind of non sense

തോമ്മാശ്ലീഹാ വന്നുവെന്ന തെളിവായി 'ശ്രീ സിരിൽ'വർത്തമാന പുസ്തകം' വായിക്കാൻ എന്നോട് നിർദ്ദേശിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു. ആ പുസ്തകം രണ്ടു പ്രാവിശ്യം ഞാൻ വായിച്ചതാണ്. അമേരിക്കൻ ലൈബ്രറികളിൽ ക്യാറ്റലോഗ് ചെയ്ത പുസ്തകവുമാണ്. അതിൽ വിശുദ്ധ തോമസ്‌ വന്ന തെളിവുകളൊന്നും കണ്ടില്ല.400 പേജുള്ള എന്റെ കുടുംബചരിത്രം ഞാൻ രചിച്ചപ്പോൾ വിശുദ്ധ തോമസ്‌ ഭാരതത്തിൽ വന്നുവെന്ന തെളിവുകൾ അന്വേഷിച്ചു അനേക വർഷങ്ങൾ പണ്ഡിതരുടെ പുസ്തകങ്ങൾ തേടി ഞാൻ നടന്നിരുന്നു. കുടുംബത്തിലുള്ളവരുടെ തെറി പേടിച്ച് തോമസ്‌ വന്നുവെന്നും അതിനുള്ള സാഹചര്യങ്ങളും ഉൾപ്പെടുത്തി മുപ്പത് പേജോളമുള്ള ഒരു ലേഖനം എന്റെ കുടുംബ ചരിത്രത്തിൽ അന്ന് ഞാൻ എഴുതിപ്രസിദ്ധീകരിച്ചു. ശ്രീ തരൂർ എഴുതിയതുപോലെ എന്റെ ഭാവനകളും അതിൽ ഉൾപ്പെടുത്തിയിട്ടുണ്ട്. തെളിവുകളായി 'വീരാടിയാൻ പാട്ടു'പോലുള്ള ചില നാടൻ ക്ലാസ്സിക്കൽ പാട്ടുകളുണ്ട്. അതും പതിനാലാം നൂറ്റാണ്ടിനു ശേഷം രചിച്ചതാണ്. മാളിയേക്കൽ തോമ്മാ കത്തനാരുടെ തോമ്മാ ചരിതം പഴമയിൽപ്പെടുത്താം. അവ്യക്തമായ തെളിവുകളെല്ലാം കിട്ടിയിരിക്കുന്നത് മൂന്നും നാലും നൂറ്റാണ്ടുകളിൽ ജീവിച്ചിരുന്ന ചില വിദേശകവികളിൽ നിന്നുമാണ്. എ.ഡി. 373-ൽ കവിയായ വിശുദ്ധ അപ്രേം തോമസിനെ സ്തുതിച്ചുകൊണ്ട് പാടി "തോമ്മാശ്ലീഹായുടെ അനുഗ്രഹീതാഗമനമായിരുന്ന ഹാ സുപ്രഭാതമേ, നീ ഭാരതത്തിന്റെ അന്ധകാരത്തെ തുടച്ചു മാറ്റുന്നു. രാജാധിരാജൻ അവിടുത്തെ മണവാട്ടിയായി ഭാരതദേശത്തെ ഉയർത്തുവാൻ നിയോഗിക്കപ്പെട്ട തോമസ്സേ നീ ഭാഗ്യവാൻ. നാലാം നൂറ്റാണ്ടിൽ തോമസിന്റെ തിരുശേഷിപ്പ് ഒരു സ്വർണ്ണവ്യാപാരി പേർഷ്യയിൽ കൊണ്ടുവന്ന കാര്യവും എല്ലാ രഗ്നങ്ങളെക്കാളും തിരുശേഷിപ്പ് വിലയേറിയതെന്നും സാക്ഷ്യപ്പെടുത്തിയിട്ടുണ്ട്. അതുപോലെ ചെന്നയിൽ തോമ്മാ ശ്ലീഹായുടെ കബറിടത്തിൽ പാകിയിരിക്കുന്ന ഇഷ്ടിക ഒന്നാം നൂറ്റാണ്ടിലെതെന്ന് തെളിഞ്ഞിട്ടുണ്ട്. അഭിപ്രായങ്ങൾ എഴുതുമ്പോൾ ഇങ്ങനെ എഴുതൂ, സിരിലേ. അല്ലാതെ എന്റെ ലേഖനം ഗാർബേജെന്നു തള്ളിക്കളഞ്ഞ് തോമസിന്റെ വരവിനു തെളിവായി 'വർത്തമാന പുസ്തകം' വായിക്കാൻ ഉപദേശിക്കരുതേ !!!

There are writers and writers of thousand varieties. Some put you to sleep as soon as you begin, others shake you up from your sleep, because they provoke you to use your brain, reflect, learn and correct the blind beliefs in which you are buried Sri Joseph Padannamakkel is of the second variety, liberating people from their blind beliefs. That is what I appreciate in him. Thomas doubted, questioned and insisted not to believe until he could touch and see. It clarified not only his doubts but the lurking doubts of all the apostles who were cowardly to ask questions. Some unbelievers call Jesus a bastard and the diehard Christians get furious and go mad and may even attack such critics branded as blasphemers. . But why? All of us know Joseph was only his foster father. Then who was his father? If none what is wrong if someone calls him a bastard from his point of view? Annadurai was asked during one of his public speeches: Who is your father? Instead of getting upset with a smiling face he answered: I was born for money. All, including myself appreciate his honesty, courage and idealism. What makes a man great, noble and worthy of imitation is not one's genealogy but the principles of humanity he lives by. That is what endears Jesus to me.Again where was Jesus from 12 to 30 years? Some say he came to Takshala,India and learned even to walk on water and many superhuman arts which made him escape alive from crucifixion etc. May be true, may be not. A scientific mind should find out before supporting or opposing such views. My friend Joseph Padannamakkel helps all of us to do that. We need more of such writers not blind believers in whatever priests and poojaries parrot as self evident. So continue please Padannamakkel with your provocative writing to make us change for the better. james kottoor

To come to an unbiased conclusion on this issue of Apostle Thomas in Kerala, we need to consider certain human traits. People generally get carried away by their own self-importance. They see their own faith, culture, traditions or heritage as better than others. It is only natural. You want to prove your genealogy from the ruling class, and not from the slave class. Another tendency is not to respect another person or his faith or traditions. Both have played into the Apostle Thomas controversy. For some Europeans, it was difficult to accept that God sent an Apostle to India, when they themselves have no such traditions to claim. A few European missionaries tried to prove that the Apostle Thomas story is a myth. They wrote books and thesis on it. They asked for proof on rock. Even when proof was given it was not proof enough, and they closed their eyes and made it dark. Before the Coonan Kurusu event most of the records of the Eastern Church was burned, and we lost forever precious records. It is true that the Anglo-Saxons were converted to Christianity much later. They couldn’t accept the fact that there were Christians in Kerala from the first century AD onwards. When the western Christian church was divided in to Catholic and Protestant, most of the relics and pilgrim centers were under the control of the Catholic Church, and they used this as a source of income. So the Protestant Churches didn’t give any importance to traditions. They tried to prove that all this just myths. The reformed churches in Kerala continue to do this today. They do not give any importance to traditions. The stakes are high here. To attract more people to their fold, one has to prove that the other is wrong. Most of these arguments are in self-interests. Instead of arguing on such issues more importance need to be giver to Christ and His mission. It is ok to believe in traditions. Apostle Paul in Bible asks us to believe Church traditions. If you study history of languages, there were no scripts initially. Writing came later. When Abraham believed in God, there were no written laws or Bible. When Abraham bought the Machpelah cave from Hittites, no written records were made but only witness to the transaction. The initial writings were cuneiform writings on clay tablets. We have a few in museums. Most of it lost. What is written there is not deciphered well. So we had only traditions to believe. To clear the controversy of Brahmins and Namboodiri families in Kerala, we have to turn to our ancient history. The original inhabitants of India were the Dravidians, the authors of the Mohan Jedharo-Harappa civilization, the ancient Indian civilization. They were a dark skinned people. Aryans came to India from the Middle East around BC 1500. The Dravidians were pushed to the south in the ensuing conflict to become the Dravidian states of Andhra, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Kerala. The Malayalam language developed from Chenthamizhu, and Kerala and Tamil Nadu were together. Eventually the Aryans conquered the south also and their Vedic Hindu religion got supremacy over native religions and over Buddhism. The Brahmins and Namboodri were descendants of the Aryans. There was lots of mixing, and a mixed race of Nair and other groups. It is said that Ezhavas derived the name from the Buddhism monks that came from Ezham or Ceylon. When Apostle Thomas came here, there were Brahmins and Dravidians and mixed race here. Apostle Thomas converted all of them to the new faith. It is natural that he ordained some of them as bishops and priests to oversee the church due to their leadership qualities. Later church forgot its mission and began to keep them apart claiming this superiority over others.

Excellent, Nainan Mathulla. Refreshing to see a Christian among those carry Christian names and attack Christ.

Don’t get drunk with religion but have a pint of Christian Brothers.

It appears like some of the writers here are born with silver spoons in their mouth, and have no other job other than to despise others and their religion and faith.

If somebody is born with silver spoon in their mouth or eating with silver spoon they probably worked hard for that. But, what religion and their wicked gurus are doing is trying to snatch that away from them in the name of faith.

If so courageous why some here have to hide behind fictious names? Christian Bishops and priests, they do not respond. So it is easy to attack them. Why not criticize the corrupt politicians and rulers, and the rich and powerful here that squeeze and oppress the poor.

സെന്റ്‌ തോമസ് വന്നപ്പോൾ നമ്പൂരിമാർ
കേരളത്തിൽ ഇല്ലായിരുന്നു. അത് ചരിത്രം. എന്നാൽ
വിശ്വാസം അങ്ങനെയല്ല. നമ്പൂരിമാർ മാര്ക്കം കൂടി ക്രുസ്ത്യാനികളായി. അങ്ങനെ വിശ്വസിച്ചാലെ
കര്ത്താവ് പറഞ്ഞ സ്വര്ഗ്ഗം അവര്ക്ക് കിട്ടുകയുള്ളുവെങ്കിൽ എന്തിനു വാദ പ്രതിവാദം.
എല്ലാ ക്രുസ്താനികളും നമ്പൂരി മാര്ക്കം കൂടിയതാണ്. ആര്ക്കെങ്കിലും എതിരുപ്പ് ഉണ്ടെങ്കിൽ വരട്ടെ. പ്രിയ സുഹൃത്തുക്കളെ  ആരും വരില്ല. അപ്പോൾ നമുക്ക് ഈ കോലാഹലം അവസാനിപ്പിക്കാം.നൈനാൻ എന്തിനാണ് അതിലേക്ക് ഈഴവനേയും
നായരേയും വലിച്ചിഴക്കുന്നത്. ഈഴവാൻ ലങ്കയിൽ നിന്ന് വന്നുവെന്ന് വല്ലവരും പറയുന്നത് കേട്ട്
ഏറ്റ് പറയുന്നു. താങ്കള് നമ്പൂരി മാര്ക്കം
കൂടിയതാണെന്ന് അംഗീകരിക്കുന്നു. പിന്നെ എന്ത് വേണം.

It looks like Ninan Matthulla is getting little bit upset about the way the discussion is going. There is nothing wrong in having a fake name. Does Paul say in Bible that, “Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. ... (Ephesians 6, 10-18). Many people are misguided by the ‘dark powers’ of religion controlled by Bishops, pastors and those who claim that they have direct connection with the so called God. There is nothing wrong in putting on a Mask and fighting against the oppression and suppression caused by the politicians and religion and even against the fake writers as Vidyaadharan put it. Don’t try to exempt the Bishops and pastors from it and point your finger to Politicians only. They both are two sides of the same coin. Here my argument is not against your or to let you down but to encourage you to come out of the clutches of religion and be free. And, the freedom I am talking about is stemming from Truth (the truth has nothing to do with material rather has connection to the spirit world) which sets us all free and allows to you embrace the fellow human beings without the barriers of cast, creed, or color. And, that is what Jesus asked us to do when he said, ‘Love your neighbor as you love yourself’. And, that is what Jesus showed to the Samaritan woman who came to draw the water from Jacob’s well. And, that is why he healed the woman who pleaded for help by shouting at him, “Son of David have mercy upon me.”

Dont be upset. We did not make caste and divide people as uper or lower. Be angry to those who made it made people suffer. Some Christians may say their upper caste origin as a way to show off.

That is a moronic response Christian. Those who created the division among people are no more there. It is yours and my responsibility to change it. But, in order to do that, first we have to be free from the chains of intellectual slavery. Religion doesn't want anybody to be free. They need parrots to repeat after them. so my humble request is to stop going to church just like Jesus did. (Mathew 24-1). As C. Andrews said look around you and help the needy and you can create heaven on earth. Isn't it Jesus meant when he taught the Lords prayer? Our father in heaven; Hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come as it is in heaven .. He never said 'let us go to heaven but asked for the heaven to come down... There is no way out Christian if you are a follower of Jesus other than follow him. Don't make him a God and use that as pretext to continue the nonsense your religion imposed up on you. I am so surprised to see so many thinking people on this page from different religion who believe that the religion is not the way to achieve love and peace on earth. I am pretty sure they are experienced people who found it out from their life experience. It is up to you what to do with your brain. We can only share our experience with you. Good luck.

ഏറ്റവും വലിയ കള്ളന്മാരുടെ ലക്ഷണമാണ് മിണ്ടാതിരിക്കുക എന്നത്. അങ്ങനെയാണെങ്കിൽ മാത്തുള്ള പറയുന്ന തിരുമേനിമാരും സന്യാസിമാരും കള്ളനു കഞ്ഞി വച്ചവ്ന്മാരായിരിക്കും

(CNSNews.com) - A new Harris Poll finds that a strong majority (74 percent) of U.S. adults say they believe in God, but that's down from the 82 percent who expressed such a belief in earlier years. Belief in miracles, heaven and other religious teachings also declined in the latest poll, as follows: --72 percent believe in miracles, down from 79 percent in 2005; --68 percent believe in heaven, down from 75 percent; --68 percent believe that Jesus is God or the Son of God, down from 72 percent; --65 percent believes in the resurrection of Jesus Christ, down from 70 percent; --64 percent believe in the survival of the soul after death, down from 69 percent; --58 percent believe in the devil and hell, down from 62 percent; --57 percent believe in the Virgin birth, down from 60 percent. The same poll also found that belief in Darwin's theory of evolution increased to 47 percent, up from 42 percent in 2005. And it shows that 42% of Americans believe in ghosts (especially younger people), 36% each believe in creationism and UFOs, 29% believe in astrology, 26% believe in witches and 24% believe in reincarnation – that they were once another person. Other findings: -- Absolute certainty that there is a God is down vs. 10 years ago (54 percent vs. 66 percent in 2003). -- Outside of specific religious samples, the groups most likely to be absolutely certain there is a God include blacks (70%), Republicans (65%), older Americans (62%), Baby Boomers (60%), Southerners (61%) and Midwesterners (58%), and those with a high school education or less (60%). -- There continues to be no consensus as to whether God is a man or a woman. Nearly 4 in 10 Americans (39%) think God is male, while only 1% of U.S. adults believe God is female. However, notable minorities believe God is neither male nor female (31%) or both male and female (10%). -- 19 percent of Americans describe themselves are "very" religious, with an additional four in ten (40%) describing themselves as "somewhat" religious (down from 49% in 2007). Nearly one-fourth of Americans (23%) identify themselves as "not at all" religious – a figure that has nearly doubled since 2007, when it was at 12%. The Harris Poll was conducted online within the United States between Nov. 13-18, 2013 among 2,250 adults, ages 18 and older. CNSNews.com is not funded by the government like NPR. CNSNews.com is not funded by the government like PBS.

Right and wrong or Truth and Falsehood are not decided by majority/minority vote. Each one of us make comments based on our knowledge and understanding. Our perceptions and faith change as our knowledge change. Your knowledge is not my knowledge. Our knowledge is ever changing. So we are arguing about something that change color every second. We must wait and see how our opinions change ten years from now.

It is not good to quote verses from Bible for other than its intended purpose. To those who do this, God in Bible is asking, "What right you have to take my words in your mouth?'

Instead of criticizing those who believe in God, let us admit that each has a right to believe or not believe in God based on their knowledge. It is a type of conversion from one faith to another some are trying here. Will it come under the law against forceful change or conversion.

The evil in it's worst form is manifested through religion. Look around the world and see what is going on in the name of religion. ISIS is in Iraq is killing many people in the name of God and religion and the God is not doing any damn thing because he is powerless.

If a person is fearful to discuss what is written in Bible, believing that it is God’s word came down from sky (Most people think that is where God is sitting because he can see everything going on earth and manage very efficiently) and carved everything on a stone and supposed follow that blindly then I feel pity on such people. And, I also wonder what you think about thousands of interpretation coming out on Bible on a daily basis? Bible is written by mortal people like you and me with all the weakness. (It is widely believed that Moses wrote the first five books of Bible, Pentateuch) There are lots of things we can learn and adopt into your life to groom into a good citizen of this world. But religion with its cunningness took possession of all these books, written by people with imagination, vision and talent and interpreted it as God’s word. The Spirit within us is nothing different from the spirit of Jesus. Jesus was a fearless person and never enslaved to the conventional wisdom of Jews. He also tried to make his followers fearless by making them free within. If Jesus was thinking that the Torah was given to Moses and nobody was supposed to question its authenticity, then we would not have received the fine writings of New Testament. Jesus clearly questioned the authenticity of Torah by raising question when he was dealing with the teachers of Jewish faith and said, “You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.” (John 5, 39-40). If people are not willing to come out of their enclave and deal with the present day reality, there is no hope for humanity.

If Anthappan has any doubt about the word of God in Bible and its authenticity, you mighr read the book, 'Bibilinte Daivikatha- Vimarshananghalkkulla Marupadi' (Divinity of Bible- reply to Criticisms).
I believe that all the people of the world are related to each other through Noah and his three chiildrens. Aryans are the children of Abraham through Kethura. In Bible it is written that  Abraham send his children to the east. All the eastern countries are settled by these children. The Dravidians are from the Sinites of Bible. The word Sindhu, Indu, and India came from Sin of Sinites.. Details of this theory is in the above book. Available history and circumstantial evidence points in this direction.

Link for the book: www.youtube.com/user/Mathullah1

ഈ ചാതി ചാതി എന്ന് പറയുന്നത് എനിക്ക് ഒരിടക്ക് ഒരു പൂതിയായിരുന്നു. എന്റെ അടുത്തുള്ള സത്യക്രിസ്ഥിയാനി തോമാ എന്നെ വെള്ളത്തിൽ മുക്കി സ്നാനപെടുത്തി എനിക്ക് ജോണ്‍ എന്ന് പേരിട്ടു. അങ്ങനെ ചാത്തൻ പുലയനായ ഞാൻ ജോണായി മാറി. പക്ഷെ നാട്ടുകാര് എന്ന്റെ പേരിന്റെ കൂടെ മാർഗ്ഗവാസി ജോണ്‍ എന്ന് വിളിച്ചു. അതിലും ക്രൂരത ഞാനും എന്ന്റെ ഭാര്യ വള്ളിയും അല്ല മേരിയും എന്നെ സ്നാനം മുക്കിയ തോമസ്‌ ഉപദേശിയെ ഭക്ഷണം കഴിക്കാൻ പല പ്രാവശ്യം വിളിച്ചെങ്കിലും ഓരോ ഒഴിവു കഴിവ് പറഞ്ഞു മാറി കളയും. ഇപ്പോൾ ഞങ്ങൾ മാർഗ്ഗ വാസികൾക്ക് സ്വന്തമായി, ഇവിടുത്തെ കറുമ്പന്മാരെ പോലെ വേറെ പള്ളിയാ. ഞങ്ങൾ കയ്യ് കൊട്ടി തുതിച്ച് സന്തോഷമായി കഴിയുന്നു. ചാതിയും ദൈവവും സമയം വരുമ്പോൾ മുഖം തിരിക്കും. ഇതിന്റെ പുറകെ നടന്നു സമയം കളയാതെ രാത്രി പന്ത്രണ്ടു മണിക്ക് എല്ലാരും ഉറങ്ങി കഴിയുമ്പോൾ കർത്താവുമായി സംസാരിച്ചാൽ മതി. അദ്ദേഹം നമക്ക് എല്ലാ വഴിയും കാണിച്ചു തരും. പിന്നെ ശബ്ദം ഉണ്ടാക്കാതെ വേണം മോഷണം നടത്താൻ. ചെകുത്താൻ മാരെ ഉണർത്തരുത്‌

മാത്തുള്ള നംബൂരിയാണെന്ന് തെളിയിക്കാൻ
എന്ത് മാത്രം കഷ്ടപ്പെടുന്നു. അതങ്ങ് സമ്മതിച്ച്
ഈ സംവാദം അവസാനിപ്പിക്കുക മിത്രങ്ങളെ.
മാതുള്ളക്ക് നമ്പൂരിയായാൽ മതി. ആദവും
ഹവ്വയും ആണു ദൈവം ആദ്യം സൃഷ്ടിച്ചത്
എന്ന് മാത്തുള്ള വിശ്വസിക്കുന്നില്ല. ദൈവം ആദം
നമ്പൂരിയും ഹവ്വ അന്തര്ജനത്തെയും ആദ്യം
സൃഷ്ടിച്ചു. പിന്നെ ആദം ക്ഷ്ത്രിയാൻ, ആദം
വൈശ്യൻ ആദം ശൂദ്രൻ എന്നിവരെ ഉണ്ടാക്കി.
മാത്തുള്ള ആദം നമ്പൂരിയുടെ മകനാണ്.
ഇനി ആരും വാദിക്കാൻ വരല്ലേ മാത്തുള്ള
കൊത്തി കൊത്തി മുറത്തിൽ കയറി കൊത്തി. ദ്രാവിഡന് ബൈബിലെ സിനൈടിസ് ആണെന്ന്
വരെ പരഞ്ഞു. ആരെങ്കിലും എഴുതി അധികാരിതയില്ലാതെ എഴുതി വയ്ക്കുന്ന
അസംബന്ധം പുലംബുന്നവരോട് ക്ഷമിക്കുക. മാത്തുള്ള പഴയ പൂണുൽ ഒക്കെ സൂക്ഷിച്ച്
വക്കുന്ന്ണ്ടല്ലോ.  കര്ത്താവും മാത്തുല്ലയെക്കൾ
താണ ജാതിയിൽ ( ആശാരി കുടുംബത്തിൽ) പിറന്നത് കൊണ്ട് അയിത്തം ഉണ്ടാകോ ആവോ?

Vayanakkaran is upset that somebody claims as nambudiri. It is a tradition for some to show off.
Why is he upset at silly things rather than being upset at the ideology that made upper and lower castes? Why is he not upset at the upper castes who treated the lower castes as trash though the ages? Is not it worse than slavery? It is institutional slavery and racism. Feel angry about those things, rather than at the fools who claim to be upper caste in Christians. In America, among Christians, many lower caste found that they are equals and not lower. The funny thing is they attack and denigrate Christians rather than their oppressors! This is sad. If somebody claims that his grandfather had 'an elephant' (uppuppaakk oru aana) it is no such big deal. The lower caste need not feel upset at frivolous things. Be upset about those high castes who still claim they are superior even in America.

ക്രിസ്ത്യനും ഒരു നംബൂരിയാണെന്നു എഴുത്തിൽ നിന്നും വിശ്വസിക്കുന്നു. വായനക്കാരൻ താണജാതികാരനാനെന്ന്  അത് കൊണ്ടല്ലേ താങ്കള് ഊഹിക്കുന്നത്. തിരുമേനിക്ക് നമസ്തേ...  അമേരിക്കയിൽ താണ
ജാതിക്കരുണ്ടെന്ന് തിരുമേനി പറഞ്ഞത് വായിച്ചു.
മേൽജാതികാരോറ്റ് അവർ പ്രതികാരനം ചെയ്യണമെന്ന്   വായ്നകാരനായ എനോട് പറഞ്ഞതിന്റെ
ഔചിത്യം മനസ്സിലാകുന്നില്ല. ഞാൻ പറഞ്ഞത്
മാത്തുള്ള നംബൂരിയാണു. അത് അംഗീകരിച്ച്
ഈ സംവാദം നിര്ത്താനാണ്. അപ്പോൾ താങ്കള്
ജാതിയും കൊണ്ട് വരുന്നു.  അപ്പോൾ താങ്കളും
നംബൂരിയാണു അല്ലെ, ഒരാള് കൂടി നമ്പൂരിയായി

Vayanakkaran is obsessed with caste. Christians are not. A few may say that they are from nambdiri heritage. just take it as a claim of 'pngachcham.' There may be truth in rare cases. Those who feel inferiority may object to such pongacham rather than laughting at it. caste has no relevance.

Bible and Mahabharata stories are good for anyone to improve their life on earth. It is nothing other than a travelogue of human journey through centuries through thick and thin. Churches spend millions of dollars annually to protect and preserve the Daivikatha of Bible which brings billions of dollars as revenue. US Catholic Church alone is a 170 billion dollar business. The church does not release financial data, but a lengthy report by The Economist last year said annual spending by the Vatican and church-owned entities in the U.S. alone was about $170 billion in 2010. While there are no hard data about the U.S. Catholic Church's annual revenue, Slate puts those spending numbers into some perspective -- noting that in fiscal 2012 Apple (AAPL +0.49%) had $157 billion in revenue and that only 16 companies have more than $170 billion in revenue. Jesus’s priorities were not money but take care of the basic needs of the poor and oppressed. And, he lived with the poor and needy and never lived in a mansion or bhadrasanm worth millions of dollars like some of the church leaders live. People in every church must rise up scrutinize the life style of these rich Bishops and their life style. Don’t get carried away by the nonsense of these people. Do not get shackled by the rituals of the church and blinded by the blind. The door is widely opened for you Matthulla. You are an intelligent person but over dosed and confused by the religion it’s leaders. I was also confused by the Pharisees, Sadducees, Zealots and puritans of the religion but when the inner eye opened, they all have vanished from the sight. No. thanks I don’t need any links to argue with any group of blood suckers who is doing nothing but defending and proving that the bible is the only book which can save humanity. Once again I would like to remind you about what Jesus said, “you think there is eternal life in Bible but it is only a witness. But in order to have life you fail to understand the truth. I am quoting this from what your guru, Jesus, taught you but the only difference is that you and I understand it differently.

A person has every right to believe whatever he wants to believe. It is the responsibility of each individual to seek, and find the Truth. If a person’s focus is just the things of this world, his inner eye will not be opened, and he walks around, and preach that there is no God. Eternal life is only for those who deserve it. Don’t worry if you do not see it. It means you are not meant for it. If you do not believe it, you do not deserve it.  What right a person has to say that there is no eternal life? Do you see everything in this universe? Is it like the frog in the well thinking that it is the whole world? I can see the all knowing pride in these people when they make such a statements. They talk as if they know everything, and nothing more to learn but only teach. Lots of people are misled. What they say is based on their understanding, and it is a narrow view of the picture, influenced by their prejudices.

 

The social conditions of Jesus time were different. We can notice difference in standard of living. Such changes will be reflected everywhere. When an organization grows its size and revenue grows, and the project it undertakes also grows. The myopic eyes of critics can’t see the contributions the Catholic Church gave to humanity. Because of their prejudices they only see one side of the story. Looks like these people have some hidden agenda to tarnish the image of Christianity. Otherwise why they have to name Christian organizations only? Any article related to Christianity, they have something negative to comment. We do not know from what religious background these people are writing.

 

If you do not believe in Bible and quote verses from Bible, it is asking you what right you have to take my words in your mouth. Buy such quotations they are misleading people? We do not know who these people are because they are hiding behind a veil of fictitious name. So the public do not know their activities or life style. Now they are criticizing the Bishops hiding behind this veil. Is it not cowardice? The Church has bodies to oversee Bishops activities. If you have a complaint you can give to these bodies to investigate. The Church members who finance church projects, it is their responsibility to assure this. It is high time to pull the veils of these hypocrites that hide behind their veils, and criticize anything and everything, while these people are above criticisms.